Self Development Idea (31): Get Off the Roller Coaster of Life and be Free (31 Oct 1984) by Lester Levenson

Getting Off the Roller Coaster of life and Be Free

Video Record in 1984,

You may find the video from YouTube with the same title, the following is the transcripts.

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Good morning,

I will take you on the major roller-coaster ride that we are on and have taken.  Interesting, your daily life are roller-coasting all the time.  But, we should know intellectually the whole complete picture, which when we do, I think it better help to place ourselves, better help us move in the direction of getting off the roller-coaster. 

If you can imagine it, life should be straight-line, not even that, it should be a point, never move, never act, never do, and that is the ultimate state.  

Yet if you have concocted a body or bodies, they go on without you doing a thing.  Your body moves, the world moves, and you do not do a thing.  You just sit back and watch it all.  

So, this concept of being still, being a point, or better than that, being every point, without moving, does not take away from you, your dear-dear world that you hold on to for life, which is your nemesis.

So, I know some of you have seen it before, probably more than once, but if there's anything I do, it's say the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again…  

I wonder, “Why don’t you hear me?”  Or, if you do, “Why don’t you just do it?”  And the doing is really undoing of the doing, so that you can remain still and just be and be and be and be. 

Does that remind you of a song, if I could be and be and be and be, if I could be?  As soon as this needs a change of lyrics a bit.  But what I am really doing, I see is — introducing Mantra.  

Any of you, anyone here do Mantra or have done Mantra?  O.k. I give you some, “If I could be, and be and be and be.” “I Am in Heaven all by myself.” “I got to be free, I got to be free…”  

There is a lot more, but the whole concept of Mantra is to get your mind in the direction, and try to quiet it by holding it on that one direction, so that the other direction will drop away.  It would be wonderful if they would.

But, Mantra is good if you have a very noisy mind, to get it quiet.  And the one I like best, I just heard: “I am I, I am I, I am I...”

So this roller coaster that we decided we would take a ride on, we start off in being only Beingness, if you could imagine what that’s like, and you cannot.  The mind cannot think beyond the mind.  

Mind is a come-down from Beingness.  So when you try to imagine the Beingness, it's impossible.  But, how many of you have experienced just being your Beingness?  I like to see a show of hands.  That’s almost all of us. 

There isn’t a moment when you are not experience your Beingness, and this is what you are looking for!  

In your every act in life, you're looking for your beingness.  And what it is?  You call it your “Self”, with a capital 'S'.   I am just my Self only, I am my beingness. And you can’t help but be your Self, you can’t help but be your beingness.

So, what do we do?  We take a sleigh ride or a roller coaster ride.  We start from a nice,  perfect, wonderful spot, we start moving out, and we take a real downward ride, go to a bottom, and then ride back up again.

In this all-perfect state of beingness, in order to get into difficulty, we create what we call our mind.  

So, right in the beginning here, we set up a Mind. It's only an instrument to separate, only an instrument to create differences, parts, primary,   After which the more parts we create, the more it hurts. 

So, after we created this mind, we do everything to get back to the beingness with the mind, but the mind cannot do it because it is lower than beingness.  But what the mind can do is direct you toward letting go of the mind, so that you can just only be.

But once we started out, that is not enough — we set up a body.  The first body is a “Causal Body”.

It's a delightful body because there, every concept, every idea we have is instantaneously fulfilled. 

As in the Causal Body, every concept is instantaneously fulfilled, and there's not too much motivation to get out of that Causal Body.  And it is relatively easy to do it, to go back up to the beingness state from here. 

But what we do is to make a denser body – call “Astral Body”.  

And here's where we really hang ourselves - "Physical Body".  I'm putting the neck right around that line,  when we get down to the physical. [Laughter]

In the realm of time, this was started eons ago.  In the realm of time, we've been hundreds of millions of years into this Physical.  This is how stubborn we are.

And theoretically, anytime anyone should choose, that one can go just right back up to the top.  But as you've noticed, you got so caught up in your toys, in your externals, you just don’t want to let go!  And so we developed all these external, more and more and more.  

And the more we developed, the heavier we feel, the slower we get, the slower we move, until we hit the bottom, the state we are in — the physical, it is the slowest, densest state possible onto beings, everywhere in the universe.  We cannot go slower, lower, denser than we are right now.

So that's a great place to be.  We are half-way through.  And we have the release methods, we are actually in the position to move up and out of the physical.  

Because it's when all the prompts are knocked out, all the external prompts are knocked out, that we say, enough, and we go back home.

We've chosen a time to come for the incentive to get out is the physical are going the Greatest.  And that’s Great!  Because it's when all the prompts are knocked out, all the external prompts are knocked out, that we say, enough, and we go back — Home.  Home is up there.

So, you've chosen a wonderful time, you couldn’t choose a better time to come into this physical realm.  Because unconsciously we set it up, originally, consciously, so that we will not be forever caught up in this heaviness, in this misery, in this limitation.

And, when we set it up, we could see ahead of time, that you get so blinded you don’t know where you're going.  And so, we set up the automatic protective stops.  That's the physical set up, so that the physical can’t work anymore, then we have to go back up, there is only one way to go — Up!  When all the prompts are out.

I don’t know whether to mention it or not, but I will.  The leader of what consider the most spiritual country in the world died, assassinated, in this morning — Indian Prime Minister, Indira Gandhi, by whom?  Two of her personal guards. 

What I'm saying to you is — there is no safeties in this world.  But what are you doing everyday?  You are trying to make it safe.  

Even if you get to be the head of one of the most spiritual, one of the largest countries, you still can't be safe,  until you identified with you beingness, and when you do, you have the absolute safety there is, you are untouchable-immortal-whole-perfect. 

So, try not hold on to this physical carcass with the intensity that you do.  Start looking to moving up.   You'll move back up to Astral.   When you get up there, it's different from here[the former-state of Astral].  Here [former-state of Astral], you were looking downwards all the time.  Now, here, you keep the direction up. 

And when you do it enough, you got to be a Christ, a Buddha, back in the Causal State, that is where they are.  

And where there are is such a thin line from just beingness only.  Should they choose to go over the line, they could do it.  But, they get caught up in wanting to help the world so that they want to start helping, since to hang around for thousands and thousands of years.  

But, they do it in a very comfortable body — the Causal Body.

Q: What about you, Lester?  Are you in the Causal?

Lester: If I in the Causal, I wouldn't be talking to you.  When I say you, I mean the world.  I sat in there for years, and then came out to do my duty, to guard my country, obey all the laws and do good.  (Group Laugh out loud!)  

Q: In other words, you were drafted.  Volunteered.

Lester: So I volunteer for it.  You have to volunteer originally. (Group LOL!)  

But, once you sit in that quiet state, it never leaves you, and it's extremely difficult to stay with the noise.  

I still have to use radio, news, read the newspapers, to know what’s going on in the world and so forth.  Because if I don’t, I just automatically float up.  And if you ask me questions, I'd look at you and just smile — because there are really no answer to the question you're asking. 

You are asking me, “Why shouldn't we be limited the way we are?” “Why shouldn't we have all these trouble?” “Why shouldn't we have this heavy body?” “Why shouldn't we suffer?” “Why shouldn't we…”  That is what every question you put to me sound like.

And in the early days, that was the way I used to answer questions.  I wasn't even aware of it until an awfully sweet girl who worked with her husband at the Valley Verde School said to me, “Oh, Lester, you're so rude.”

I said, “Am I?”  She said, “You certainly are.”  I didn't know why, so I had to ask her “Why?”  

She said, “I just asked you a question a few minutes ago and you looked at me and smiled.  You didn't even answer me.  Then I asked you a second question.  You did the same thing.  Then I asked you a third question.  You did the same thing.  That is rude!”

And I said, “Gee, she's right, but I still don't think it's rude.”  I said, “Could you ask them over again?”  She didn't want to.  That's rude. [Laughter]

But I did try to answer her questions more so.  This happened in Phoenix in a restaurant.  I came back to Sedona.  I asked closer ones, “When you ask me questions sometimes, do I just look at you and smile?”  And they said, “Yeah.”  I said, “Why don't you say something about it?”  This was Reverend Lindsay.  He says, “Oh, I understand.”

And another fellow told me the same thing.  It was only then that I realized I was not answering the great majority of questions, but I was answering, see, where I was coming from with a smile.  That smile is “Thou art that perfect Being.”

Of course, when you project that to the other person, it tends to lift them, but of course I couldn’t lift them high enough to agree with me.  So, they want an answer down in the pit.  

So I have to learn how to talk “pit language” again. (Laughter)

Student: So this is all pit talk, huh?  [Lester nodded his head.] [Laughter]

Student: Is that when you moved to New York?  

Lester:  Oh, no.  Back in the early 60s, I began, I think it was really 68, I began watching TV, hour in, hour out, one program after another, until I could get my first feeling.

And when I got the first feeling, I got a little tear in the corner of my eye.  I just jumped up and I applauded.  But it took me until 1968 before I could do that, from 52 to 68.

Now, back in 52, I knew I would be doing what I'm doing.  I had the whole picture.  When you're there, there's no time.  You can see back a million years, forward a million years, or tomorrow.  

But I saw the picture and I knew I needed to come back.  And it took me 18 years to get into the realm of Thinkingness, whereas it took me three months to get out of it.

See, this is Beingness, this is Thinkingness, this is more of Doingness.  You're quite active there [Doingness].  And incidentally, when you dream and you see your body, that is your Astral body.

And that Astral body is the Matrix for the Physical Body, so it looks exactly like it.  

Student: Matrix means what?  Center?  

Lester: Mother.  Mother of this body, it forms this body.  

And down here [in the Physical Body] we think we have to have in order to be.

[Now, in the Causal Body, we are in the thinkingness.  

In the Astral Body, it is more of Doingness.

And, down in the Physical Body, it is mostly Havingness.  We think we have to have, started to accumulate more and more and more stuffs from the external world. ]

We start gathering the infinite universe back together by trying to own one spot, then more and more and more.  You know, when we think we have the world like some of our leaders do, they want to take in the moon.  And this week NASA was talking about Mars.

They think the Russians will probably get there before us.  If you get Mars and you want the whole Solar System, after that you want the rest of it, when you're in the realm of Havingness.  

So, when you're in Havingness and you start to do, it move you up towards the Astral.  

Now there is a difference between here [the former Beingness State] and here [the Returned-Beingness State].  When we're in the [former] Top State [Beingness], we were up there in sort of a passive way.  And when we run the gamut of all this, we come back to it in a positive way.

I think the best way I could explain that is like sickness.  If you're born healthy and you're healthy all your life, do you appreciate that Health?  Well, you will like it, it is nice, but you will not be aware of the value of the Health!  

However, when you're sick for a decade or two or three, and then you become Healthy, you will always appreciate the state of Health.  That's a positive knowing of what is Health. 

Whereas, if you were born Healthy and remain Healthy all the time, it's a passive knowing of what the state of Health is.  So, when we run the gamut,  we go out no more!  

Because I live in a hell, and that's the state we're in here [Physical state].  The most limited, the most hellish state beings can ever get themselves into.  Because we are down here [at the bottom], we have a tremendous advantage.

When you're in hell, the advantage is the incentive to get out of it.  And we're plagued with it.  Peppered, like with bullets all the time, to get out of this state.

And because of that, from the bottom, we can go straight-up all the way back Home, when we so decide. (See the green path in the following picture.) 

However, when you try to get up from the nicer realm, you take eons to go all the way, for things are nice, everything fall into line.  Your conscious of the fact that you are going up without incentive to do it.  And so, the old programs hang-on and keep us in the nice state for eons, and yet we will never be fully comfortable in any of the intermediate states until we get back Home. 

We are always prodded by the memory of what it was at the beginning [at Home State].  So to avoid the endless [journey in the Nicer Realm]...  You see, when you're in these states [Nicer Realm], you're highly sensitive.  The majority of the time, everything is wonderful, but when things are not, you feel them far more intensely than you can feel now.

Your feeling is totally concentrated on whatever that feeling is when you're in these intermediate states.  And by comparison it to the harmony you're living in, it’s extreme.  It doesn't last, but when you hit, and you will hit it, it’s extreme.  

And, in the slow-nicer path, you will occasionally going into a terrible feeling.  How many of you have read the “Autobiography of a Yogi”?  I can use that book to allude to these things: 

Here you take Yogananda, he was free before he was born.  And, at one time he was going to visit to one of the saints way out, and he met him. And all of the sudden, he dropped down on the ground, he was crying and screaming, “Oh! Please get me an experience of GOD.” 

From the high state, when you going through that non-Godly state, it's excruciatingly painful, he threw himself on the ground with screaming.  He was writhing with the agony of not being one with God.

Those are the things we go through on these higher state, in the nicer path.  So, what I'm trying to say is these states are awfully tempting, and as you move up, some of these characters will invite you into it.

My recommendation is bypass it all.  Take this straight path, get off the roller coaster, go right back home!

Being in this state we are in, anyone of us can do it.  Remember that's the tremendous advantage of being here in the physical.  You can go straight up and back home.  You can do it in a few months, a few years, this life time.  

Or, in many-many life time, it is up to you.  You make the choice.  Now, the majority people on the earth, who do no have the Sedona Method, are going to take million of years through the trial and error, through the hard way, of smashing up everything to show us that it does not lie in things.  

I think you can see that as our trouble today.  We have materiality, we were never so unhappy.  

Back in the days when I was a boy, a youth, hardly anyone had enough food, you could imagine that.  We were doled out to things like fruit, desserts.  They were expensive. Things were expensive.  Things like cars, TVs, radios, airplanes, boats... A very small percentage, probably less than 1%, of us had those things back in those days.

But, today, everyone has more than the wealthiest man had back then.  And, we think material things will bring happiness, and we still do, we still go after them. 

Discover where the happiness is.  It's not in the thing.  It's in letting go of the agony of not having it.  Desire is an agony of lack.  It's letting go of the desire for having it that momentarily quiets our minds.  And at that moment, we're just Being.  

Discover wherein lies your happiness.  You'll stop wasting your time.  You'll stop pounding your head on brick walls.  And you'll go direct for where it is, right where you are.  It's just you identifying with your Beingness.

Do you see why I say it's simple?  It's the simplest thing in the universe to be.  You are.  That's how simple it is.

And when I say it's easy... What does it take for you to be you?  Nothing.  What does it take for you to be you?  Nothing.  What effort does it take to be none?

But look what you're choosing...  A tremendous effort to be otherwise, to be limited, to be sick, to be chasing after specks in the world when the whole universe is yours.  So it is simple.  It's you.  Your Beingness.  And it's easy because you're there now.  

Effort has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.  Effort is all the commotion you go through to be what you are not.  An extremely limited physical body.  Spending almost all your time trying to keep it surviving, even though it's so obvious that the body does not survive, everyone's spending 99% of that one's time trying to keep the body surviving.

It's a no-win proposition.  And still we go after it.  You see how brilliant our minds are?  

Loose the mind.  Stop the thought by ridding yourself of the motivators of all the thoughts called feelings.  No feelings and you're there.  

See how simple it is?  And when you so decide to let go of your feelings, it's easy.

It's an accretion that takes tremendous effort to hold on to it.  Become effortless right now and you're free.  

Let go of all your effort.  Every ounce of it is trying to be limited, trying to be what you are not.  It's simple.  You are it and it's easy.  It takes no effort.  

Every ounce of effort you use is trying to be a limited body.  Trying to keep it surviving even though you're not smart enough to know that it doesn't.

If you were, you'd just give it its just due and you'd turn, focus all your attention on going free.  You would turn all your attention inward.  Take all your joy from you, which is the only place for where it is in the first place.  So, it's simple and it's easy.  everyone fight me on that. 

I think that's my biggest danger point.  I think more people want to kill me because I say it's simple and it's easy than anything else.  All right, what is it that wants to kill me?  

Student: Yeah?  The effort?  The ego?  

Lester: The ego, the effort, the mind, they're all one and the same thing.  Ego equals mind, mind equals ego.

You're so wanting to be a limited ego that when I suggest otherwise you want to kill me.  Isn't that silly? 

Student: Not from the ego point of view.  

Lester: All right, in fact ego, he must go.   I don't know why everyone chooses to hang on to the misery.  And as long as you're trying to get your joy from this world for each ounce of pleasure you take you get pounds and pounds of pain.  For each ounce of pleasure you take you get pounds of pain.

Putting it another way, for each ounce of pleasure you take you get pounded with pain.  Yeah.  And you're all experiencing this, more or less.

Why not make the decision here and now to go free and let it be in a matter of weeks, months.  And then to bait you, I say to you, "Want to have?  Have anything, without effort, if you're free.  You want to do?  You can do anything, without effort, if you're free."

So there is no giving up.  There's only a taking on more and more and more until you're infinite.  So many of you think you're going to give up.

You give up, like you do with food.  You give up your misery.  That's what you give up.

But you have not convinced yourself yet to what I'm saying now.  Because once you do, that's just a matter of months and you'll dump all the feelings and just be your Beingness.  

Okay, I'm taking you on the roller coaster ride, the main one.  Of course, what we do on these rides is we impose another roller coaster.  Down here, it's really sharp.  [the brown line super-imposed on the main ride in the following diagram.]

Between the astral and the causal?  Can't you see it now?  No.  You don't think you have a choice?  I mean, I don't know anything about the astral or the causal.  It's all in the mind.

Student: So on our way up, we're going to see that we have a choice to go into the Astral and the Causal?

Lester: Can't you see it now?

Student: No.

Lester: You don't think you have a choice?

Student: Well, I mean I don’t know anything about the Astral or Causal.

Lester:  It is all in the mind, you are experiencing both of them right now.  When you have an idea, and you see it through to completion, the moment you have it, that is done by the Causal part of you.  

When thing happen immediately, that is done in the Astral part of you, like in the night-dream, whatever you think is, immediate.  And, when it takes time and years, you are in the Physical.

Updated the first version of Transcription with the help of "TurboScribe.ai" -- corrected many wrong sentences, etc.  May 2024.

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       The reason for having a transcript in black and white is explained by one of the Lester Levenson audio clip as follows:...

“Momentum is very important in getting realizations.  You stay with something, it becomes clearer and clearer as you stay with it.  But if it starts getting clear and you move off, when you come back on to it, it's more difficult to get into it again.

And so, I am anti-talks, tapes, because of that.  I can see it doing harm in that it doesn't let you stay with something, because the conversation goes on and on and you move off one thing onto another — to another without getting a realization of any one of them.  I believe you got much more good out of reading the book…” —  Lester Levenson. 

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